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he had some respect for her but he criticised objectivism and her followers. Hardly what you would call a pro rand writer though.

That’s what i mean

Hitchen’s said her literature was crap. You can look it up on youtube, lmao. I actually enjoy Ayn Rand. But, you’re obviously making bullshit up. He “praised her”. Are you fucking retarded? PLEASE give me a source where he praised her. I WOULD LOVVVE to see it.

Look for this quote, “And when we look at the other side of it — there is a brilliant, unusual, exceptional boy turned into a purposeless monster.”

As for not caring about others, I gave you an example already of caring for another person being in line with Objectistism, in the last cha[ter of the book, it was clearly deminstated. Not caring for others requires a person to cut off a part of themselves in a manner that causes self destructive behavor and thus not in ones self intetest

i admit she called him a degenerate, please tell me where she called him a monster. rational selfishness is live for yourself, don’t care about anyone else. if you feel im wrong feel free to explain

I looked it up and he does not understand the rational selfishness philosophy and appearntly you are allowing people that lack understanding to do your thinking for you.

The quote is about a single idea, that Hickman himself utter failed to actually live up to, not Hickman himself as a whole and you are perfectly will to ignore that she called him both a degenerate and a monster because it fits what you have been told to believe is true.

he praised her, said he liked alot of her ideas.

Htichens was never a pro rand writer

I wonder who cleans the toilets in Galt’s Gaulch?

thats awhole lot of talking without saying anything. even pro rand writers like christor hitchens said her point is be selfish, and by being selfish you’ll somehow help people. look up theyoungturks and they give you her exact quote of her praising Hickson, to her its about looking after one’s self, thats it.

That is actuallt rationally selfishness and your interpration of what you believe is your own interest shows your mewasure as a person and you lack of understanding of what Rand said. Just look at the loast chapter of Atlas Shrugged titled “In The Name Of The Best Within Us” that shows risking yourelf to help others in a postive light.

Also the term that Rand used is Ubermech, which is not a inherently positive term. Also using one term in no way shows the other was not used.

she said that religion was evil, her whole argument is that everyone should be selfish. She never said monster, she called him a superman. basically she wants everyone to be like him besides the murder, a person who doesn’t give and only cares about themselves.

I see you do not understand what you critisize. Rand called Hickman a degenrate and a monster. In addition it is not sharing in religion that Rand was against, but telling people that it is their duty to sacrifice their own lives to serve others which basically demands people enslave themselves to other while making doing anything at all for yourself, ever, something to be ashamed of. It is an impossible standard to live by.

u want to know something even more interesting, john galt is based on a murderer named william hickman, who murdered a little girl. he is her pride and joy because he is so God damn selfish. i mean this is the same person who condemned religion, not because of the usual atheist reasons, but because christianity, judaism & my islam tells people to share. she was racist, a bitter old lady.

Greed Greed Greed, is it anything othet than that in your world?

And that is why you faill…

So Close to the mark, I think there is primarily a misconception of who “Atlas” is, definitely not Mr Trump, Murdoch and other parasites! Atlas sits a little further down the wealth scale, the inventors and innovative manufacturers who drive real progress. I would love to see the megacorp class dumped on an island somewhere

European Union: True Story.

Watch the Armentano/Paul discussion on anti-trust laws and monopoly, available on YouTube.

I’m not sure if your’ve read the book, but the men who leave, rich or otherwise, are the producers not the spoiled rich. Bieng rich doesn’t mean you disappear” in Atlas Shrugged. It’s those who’ve created things, made the world better through inudstrial progress, or those who’ve built companies which employ thouands. If this happened in the real world, alot of what Ayn Rand talks about would happen though not nearly as pronounced as she puts it. Spoiled ones LOVE the Govt. and wouldn’t leave.

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let me tell you what would happen in real life. after decades of abusing the poor and working class, the rich like donald trump leave because they feel unappreciated. then when they go to a land to live by themselves, they will hate having to do everything by themselves. they won’t know how to farm or build houses or defend themselves from thieves, they return and theres a new rich class who are building roads and making jobs, like mark cuban. the spoiled ones won’t be allowed back and they die.